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feminism and its influence on the portrayal of sexual power
This is an archive page for February 2002.
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From: Catherine cinque3000@optushome.com.au
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002
A day in the feminist life must occur in 1% of people worldwide. Get a grip.
Thinkbomb: the above reader has submitted a series of events in her day that characterise the dominance of males and patriarchy. This follows from a previous reader who did a similar thing. I will post this message soon, probably as a separate page.
From: reaper277v" sparkyshortz@cox.net
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002
It has come to my attention that most women will say that there is nothing a man can do that a woman cannot do. This I have found to be partly true. Although there are those women out there that are willing to do what ever it takes to get what they want, most would rather just complain that life is unfair. I am the type of person that feels that if you want something or require things to change you must first look to yourself to get them.
This however is not the case for most of the women that I know!! They go to their spouse or an outside party to get things done instead of doing things themselves.
It is this type of thought pattern that will one day be the end of us. Not that I am saying that only women think this way but it seems to be the main pattern.
What is wrong with getting up off your butt and just taking care of a situation!!!!??? To many people will wait till it affects them personally before they get up and do something.
This is my main concern...women sit and say there spouses do not love them because they work long hours, this statement is bull****!!!! If they maybe just put themselves in the mans shoes for a day the story would change.
Most women who work sit behind a computer, I have only met one woman who does construction...this is not a job that most women will do or can do. I do know many men who sit behind computers though. Why is it that men can sit at an office and work but women will not get in the field and work...maybe they do not want to break a nail or even worse GET DIRTY...OH NO NO THAT IS NOT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
From: pheonix_rising@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002
I don't know why i'm bothering with this but hey, what the hell, i'm bored.
"Most men actually highly esteem women and generally treat them with great honour" you say. Really? I suppose to be raped is an honour then. how many men outside prison get raped each year? huh? No, most men treat women with the same 'honour' they give their car, most men consider women fuckable play toys. Even the men who aren't blatently sexist, the men who consider themselves good guys are quite condescending, with the smug belief that they somehow are worth more than their female counterparts.
"When women get married they often rely on their husband's wages, and the man must then try to stoically provide for the whole family" Why does this happen? Because the patriarchy in this world says that woman must stay at home and raise the children. It's rare that a woman without kids would just be sitting around the house mouching off her husband. And if a man resents helping out to provide for his children, he has absolutely no business having children. None.
And that's just in the first paragraph, i've skimmed the rest but i'm not going to comment on it, it would take more time than this is worth. Especially as the last couple paragraphs are simply just pathetic rants. Not to mention you have no facts anywhere so your argument really isn't much of an argument. But then again, i'd imagine it's pretty hard to find facts to back up things you just pulled out of your ass.
You poor, poor, oppressed man; manipulated by women. You don't know shit. you say there's no patriarchy, you are a fucking solider of the patriarchy with your anti woman rhetoric. Patriarchy is that male is the default, that women are constantly required to defend their sex. Patriarchy is playboy magazine and internet porn. Patriarchy is that a woman is supposed to take the man's name when they get married, patriarchy is that make up isn't required for a man to look socially acceptable, ect. ect. ect. There's a phrase, 'patriarchy hurts men too' or PHMT. sure, i believe that's true. I don't hate men in general. I do however hate men, like you, who dismiss women's experiences and who endlessly complain about what they've supposedly suffered at the hands of 'evil' women. Whatever women have done to you, and i suspect your bitter because either 1. your mom worked when you were a kid and you felt neglected and left out because of course your mother is supposed to cater to every whim of her son rather than have a life of her own, so you hate women or 2. women aren't as anxious to get into bed with you as you'd like. What ever it is, it's nothing compared to what women have suffered at the hands of men.
Go back to worshiping your penis and stay away from women.
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